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egthareal
04-18-2005, 12:41 AM
With an expected 2,000 + entries this year the WSOP is quickly becoming overcrowded and a circus. The question looms, should the WSOP and Harrahs commision raise the Buy-IN to level the playing field back to realistic standards? If so, how much is enough - $100,000? If not, why not?

--EG

kansaspoker
04-19-2005, 09:43 AM
I read somewhere that they once had a tournament that was $50,000 entry and only a handfull of people enrolled. $100,000 may be too steep.

drewjax
04-19-2005, 03:15 PM
I think they should raise it, probably to 25K. It has been 10K for 30 years!

steve_rowePA
04-20-2005, 02:03 AM
i think they need to keep it as it is but seperate it more so its not such a circus.. i uno maybe mkae it double as long and half teh people at same time

zerOT
04-20-2005, 02:46 AM
Let all the people in they want. The reason it would make sense to raise the buy in to me is because 10 grand in today's society is considerably "less" than in say the '60s and '70s so a 25k buy-in just kinda raises the stakes so to speak. It is a bit of crapshoot currently, but oh well. Man how crazy would it be to play in the WSOP. lol

card4
04-20-2005, 03:33 AM
I can see both sides of this issue. On the one hand, it is great to keep the history alive by maintaining the same buyin all these years. What a bargain a $10K buyin is today with a top prize well over $5 million. Of course, even though $10K is still a lot to many people, it many not be enough to keep out thousands wishing to get in on the action. I think we may end up seeing the mainevent buyin raised to $25K like the final on the WPT. I still think even with an increased buyin, the WSOP is not going to go back to the days of only a few hundred entrants any time soon. If they raised it to $25K next year I'd still be willing to bet they would get over a thousand people.

Its one of those things where people see big prizes being won by unknowns for the last three years (Varkoney, Moneymaker, Raymer) and so more people enter. This in turn leads to even bigger prize pools each year and causing even more people to want to enter. Poker has just been building like this for the last few years and I don't see it tapering off too much unless they were to raise the buy in really high like $100K.

ReadChomsky
04-21-2005, 04:53 PM
I agree with Drewjax, they should raise it to 25K. They should also raise the buy-ins of the smaller tourneys now at 1K, 3K, 5k. They should become 1K, 5K, 10K. Thanks to the WPT, the WSOP will have to keep us with the joneses.

1rainbow
04-21-2005, 06:33 PM
i think it's fine the way it is

kansaspoker
04-28-2005, 07:21 AM
Seems like the capped the number of enteries to 6600 with a first prize capped at 7.5 million.

adampad
04-28-2005, 06:58 PM
I guess they should raise it. I mean 10k for 30 years is crazy. How much would that be today? I may kill the dreams of playing for some people but I would rather watch the pros play I guess. Who would want to see a Triple A team play the Yankees in the world series?

I would also like to see limited number of entries. Maybe they should have qualifing rounds or something. 2000+ is just too many people.

kansaspoker
05-02-2005, 08:05 AM
Well, with WSOP limiting the number of enteries, I can foresee a new form of Tour with a large prize pool opening up. There is simply too many people wanting to play and casino can not accomodate them.

eric2theF
05-04-2005, 09:23 AM
i never thought about it before, but i dont think the amount of the buy in has any nostalgic effect on the tournament itself, if raising the buyout limits the amount of people getting into the tournament, good. who cares if theres 1000 extra nobodys in the world series of poker. no offense to all of us nobodys, but they should let the players bankrolls determine who can play, not the size of the facilities.

FergyFan315
07-27-2005, 02:48 PM
i think its a fine amount as it is right now. i know that u and i want to weed out the rookies so a pro could win it(well thats what i want) but the great thing about it is that if it where raised some players like us could not enter. poker tournaments r great. its the only thing when u can play against pros and be a random person. u cant do that say like in the nfl if u have 10 grand.

Lancer
07-27-2005, 06:50 PM
There are 2 big draws to TV poker right now:

The well-known pros with personality (good or bad) that people want to watch.

The fact that anyone can sit down at this game with a chance to win--even you on the couch watching tv right now!

The people in charge aren't going to do anything to detract from either of these if they can help it. This year's tourney really emphasized the second draw, at least at the final table. Two of the finalists qualified on Poker Stars, two on Party Poker (not sure about the rest). This may cause even more people to get bit with the poker bug when the final table game is televised.

Raising the entry fee and keeping the structure the same as it is now will detract from draw number 2 and won't necessarily increase draw number 1 enough to make sure there are well-known pros at the final table.

The big issue I see is that the event is called the "World Series" of poker yet it's just one more pay-to-play tourney that anyone can enter. I'd like to see a system of qualifying tourneys for a new "super main event" that only people with enough points in the tourney series could enter. Keep the rest of the events as they are, don't increase the buy-ins. This will keep both draws going strong I think, plus add some weight to the actual "World Series" idea.

thecaptainjs
07-31-2005, 04:09 PM
They need to raise it.

for one, online sites are sending loads of people and if you raise the cost to get in then there should be fewer people in.
25k at least.

Its a good idea.. but who knows what they will do.

Also... it would get some of the less experienced players to stay out. and the experienced ones to stay.

FergyFan315
07-31-2005, 09:57 PM
I guess they should raise it. I mean 10k for 30 years is crazy. How much would that be today? I may kill the dreams of playing for some people but I would rather watch the pros play I guess. Who would want to see a Triple A team play the Yankees in the world series?

I would also like to see limited number of entries. Maybe they should have qualifing rounds or something. 2000+ is just too many people.


yeah u would want to see the pros only play but when u want to enter, what r u gonna do?

tiptheboss
08-01-2005, 03:17 AM
It's all about the Tax laws.

thecaptainjs
08-02-2005, 10:41 PM
what do you mean tax laws?

card4
08-03-2005, 02:33 AM
Binion's is planning to hold another major tournament in the fall that they hope will become one of the majors. I don't know if the buyin has been ironed out but I believe it was going to be $25,000 so that should provide an outlet for the people who think the WSOP buyin is too low.